The NHPI Data Policy Lab, even though our focus is mostly on data, we really do see data as one of the foundational pieces for making sure that our communities are represented accurately when these decisions are made. And making sure that not only is our community counted within its disaggregated, Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander category, but that our individual Islander communities are also represented as well, because we know that not all of our islander communities share the same socioeconomic status across many measures. 

[Later in the podcast]

And so arming ourselves with both sides — the data and the stories — I think is extremely helpful. And as far as the stories, I think it's worth emphasizing to our community and legislators that it may not be always visibly apparent for those outside of our community what these programs can mean for us.